Periodic maintenance on a 5.45x39mm AR-15

Well, this is sort of pointless after the truly pointless ban on surplus 5.45 ammo but I neglected to put this in my definitive article on the 5.45x39mm AR-15 so here goes.

Every 2,000 rounds or so, you need to remove the flash hider or muzzle brake  on your 5.45 AR-15.  Use a 19mm wrench and steady pressure.  Then put it forward end down and take a look.

That's not supposed to be there!  Light tapping with nearly any tool will show you that is indeed built up carbon.  Do note that I've never seen this actually cause a problem in 27k rounds.  I assume the rounds exiting the flash hider self regulate the carbon wall from obstructing the bore but might as well spend 10 minutes chipping this away and then soaking in my favorite penetrating oil and repeating the chipping process.  You don't have to get it perfect; just knock out most of the wall of carbon with a flat tip screwdriver or any other tool you have laying around.

Gratuitous pics!

Your morning Orwell

  This Winchester Model 86 45-70 rifle is a family heirloom of my family's.  It is pictured below above the mantel of my father's house in Wyoming.  The rifle is in working order as it should be.

  This rifle has spilled blood in the infamous Johnson County Range War and that's all I know.  I asked for more details and was told "you don't want to know."

  Anyway, here's your fix of that visionary Orwell.  It's hard to read Orwell and to not think of Snowden, Feinstein, and the NSA.  It's a bit depressing to think of the land of the Magna Carta (George Orwell's land!), the land where certain inalienable rights many Americans take for granted originated, having been disarmed like it is now.

That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.

AR-10 or maybe an AR-15 in hands of "Crimean militiaman" or Russian soldier in Crimea

Photo from Yahoo News.  Looks like a Magpul CTR stock,  maybe (just maybe) an Atlas bipod, and a Hogue grip along with a suppressor, and presumably, a good scope with a sexy sunshade because chicks dig sunshades.  Note the Magpul baseplate on the PMAG.

Net:net; dude either knows his kit, his chain of command does, or.....we know him on the gun forums!

LWRC acquired by Colt

Told ya so in November.

Interesting and kinda sad twist:  This development that has been in the works since last fall is now being attributed by F&D Defense as an effort by LWRC's owner and shareholders to avoid F&D's lawsuit.  A direct quote from F&D's front page of their web site.

LWRCI has moved to sale ownership of its company on the heels of revelations that F&D is the actual inventor of its flagship Intellectual Property which is incorporated into its M6-IC, M6-IC-SPR, M6A2, M6A2 SPR, M6-SL, PSD, M6.8-A2, M6.8-SPR, M6.8-UCIW, and REPR rifles, enabling its piston system to function properly.

F&D had a contentious relationship with the rest of the precision rifle world long before this little announcement.  Their staff would get on SnipersHide forums and honestly make the rest of the world run away from their products and company through their immature tone and willingness to not take the high road but rather to squabble in an adolescent fashion, usually after one of their rifles did not shoot that well as reported by an independent tester.  Most of their worst tiffs have been disappeared, no doubt related to the current lawsuit in which it's reported that the owner of F&D is representing himself.  

What could possibly go wrong?

Glock 42: what's shipping and a range report Part:1

As written by "Skintop1911" at Pistol-Forum

Manufacturer: Glock, Inc 

Model: G42 

Serial Number: AAPG### 

Production (Test Fire) Date: 12/20/2013

On the web

Source

This G42 was obtained from a Glock LE distributor at LE pricing of 

~$320.00.  All costs associated with this review were paid by me. 

Unboxing 

The Glock 42 ships in the same hard plastic Glock branded box other 

models ship in.  Included in the case are the gun itself, two 

magazines, promotional and safety literature, a trigger lock, and 

fired casing(s).  The overall appearance of the gun is like its other 

Glock siblings.  Its diminutive size is its greatest distinction from 

the rest of the line and there is little else noteworthy about it 

externally.  Unloaded, the G42 with empty magazine inserted weighs 

13.9oz on my postal scale.  Field stripping is accomplished in the same 

manner as other Glocks. 

Comparison to a Glock gen4 Glock 17 

Comparison to a S&W M&P Shield:

The upper is detail stripped in the same manner as other Glocks.  The 

serrations on the slide are shallower and have less bite when 

grasping.  The sights are a downsized version of the plastic 

ball-and-bucket type most Glocks ship with.  The rear sight is 6.1mm in 

height, and the front is the standard OEM front.  The firing pin safety 

and corresponding machining in the slide is unique to the G42.  The 

balance of the slide internals are mostly just miniaturizations of 

larger Glocks. 

Detail stripping the G42 lower shows some noteworthy differences from 

other Glocks.  There is only the single trigger pin (?first pin?) to 

remove above the trigger, along with the trigger mechanism housing pin 

at the rear.  The locking block must be removed to remove the slide 

stop lever.  The slide stop lever has a captured coil spring attached 

to it.  The slide lock lever receives its tension from a coil spring 

beneath it, rather than the leaf spring of the larger Glocks.  The 

trigger spring is a combination of a captured coil spring and leaf bar 

on top.  A small pin/rod runs through both, and then attaches to the 

interior of the trigger mechanism housing.  Disassembly of the trigger 

mechanism housing is unique to the G42.  The grip texture of the lower 

receiver is the same raised polygonal surface as found on other Gen4 

models, but less pronounced.  It's not particularly grabby, but there 

is palpable resistance to slip.  The magazine catch is the standard 

Gen4 size and type, and is reversible.  The trigger face is smooth. 

The barrel is marked for caliber, and has the Georgia and other Glock 

proof marks. The RSA is the same type of captive dual spring assembly 

found on other gen4 Glocks. 

The magazine is a single stack. It does appear that there is at least 

a slight stagger of the cartridges in the magazine. The capacity is 

six rounds, and seven can?t be inserted even with deliberate effort. 

The witness holes are correct to the number remaining. The spring has 

11 coils. 

Only .380 Auto cartridges can be loaded into the magazine. Each of 

more than two dozen 9mm Luger/Parabellum/NATO length cartridges extend 

beyond the front wall of the magazine. The 9mm cartridges that came 

closest to full insertion on the magazine were several Corbon loads, 

particularly the 95 and 115gr FMJ, 115gr JHP, and 100gr Pow?RBall. 

Further, the internal dimensions of the magazine well do not allow 

sufficient clearance for a typical 9mm cartridge to be placed within 

it, while allowing for a magazine body around it. Photos are of the 

115gr Corbon, Federal 147gr HST, and Black Hills Ammunition 115gr 

Barnes TAC-XP. 

Dry Fire

Initial take up of the trigger is very similar in weight and quality 

to Glocks equipped with NY1 trigger springs. The break is distinct but 

travel through it is smooth and improved with work through the 

session. Over-travel is typical of other Glocks. Trigger reset was 

distinct, palpable, and audible. The trigger reset felt like something 

between the reset of a NY1 and NY2 trigger spring. 

I conducted a number of different dry-fire handling drills to 

familiarize myself with the gun. The biggest hurdle in the process was 

finding an optimal hand placement that was not wholly divergent from 

my aggressive, high, thumbs-forward grip. I often found my middle 

finger over the magazine release, ejecting the magazine when squeezing 

with the support hand. My thumbs tended to rest against the slide, and 

blocked movement of the slide stop. While gripping the gun, it sat 

low, disappeared in the hand, and felt like I was holding a gun shaped 

cell phone instead of a handgun. Dry reloading drills were difficult. 

The bottom of my hand prevented the magazine from dropping free unless 

I completely broke my firing grip. Inserting a replacement magazine 

required the same repositioning. A failure to keep that reposition 

during insertion painfully pinched my hand between the magwell and 

magazine floor plate, failed to seat the magazine, and created 

significant time delays. 

When running the slide at speed I found that my hands sometimes 

slipped on the slide. The thin slide didn't have enough surface area 

for my hand, and the shallow serrations just didn't have the bite I 

needed. 

The balance of other dry exercises were quite satisfactory. Once I 

found a good firing grip I was able to press the trigger through 

without disrupting the sights, and work the reset. My existing 

familiarity and proficiency with Glocks and the NY1 trigger was 

undoubtedly helpful. 

Live Fire

The G42 was fired through a series of drills and standards that I 

commonly use with other guns. As I had no holsters or support 

equipment, all were fired from a compressed high ready position. Most 

shooting was not quantified, but I did capture several scores and 

times. Those are listed here. 

10rds @ 25yds, B8 target, standing unsupported

77-0X, ~5 group, close for windage, low for elevation. Fired with a 

center-hold. 

A second group fired holding at the top of the 9-ring held all within 

the 8-ring, most within the 9-ring. 

One 12:00 ejection hit the slide on its way back down. 

F2 to 3x5 index card, 7yds 

Low clean, 1.54 

High clean, 1.80 

Average (all), 1.69 

F5 to A-zone

3yd, 2.27 C, 1.59 C 

5yd, 2.04 C 

7yd, 1.99 -1, 2.00 C 

10yd, 2.71 C 

After several more repetitions, times for this drill from the ready 

stayed at or below ~2sec regardless of distance (3-10). 

50rd LE POST qual course

50/50 

47/50 (run at 3sec par) 

Summary

Ammunition run-down

107rds PMC 90gr FMJ (380A) 

50rds Federal RTP 95gr FMJ (RT38095) 

30rds Winchester FMJ 

24rds misc u/k 

12rds CCI Blazer FMJ 

8rds Hornady JHP-XTP 

7rds Federal Hydra-Shok 

6rds Hornady Critical Defense 

6rds Winchester Silvertips 

6rds Remington Golden Sabre 

6rds Winchester Ranger 

This G42 had the best fighting potential of any compact or subcompact 

.380 I've fired. It demonstrated as much potential for accurate hits 

at speed or in slow fire as larger Glocks in the line, and much more 

flexibility than the .380 competitors of its type. The G42 shot flat, 

and stayed on target with little perceptible muzzle rise or recoil. I 

was able to maintain low-splits (~.25), consistent six to seven round 

cadences, and stay on -0 or A-zone sized targets after some 

familiarization. Farther above, I noted that the grip texturing on the 

G42 was less pronounced than on other gen4 guns. It was more than 

sufficient for the amount of recoil control needed for this gun. 

Reloading and stoppage clearance procedures may be more difficult for 

those with large hands or other unique grip issues. 

The bulk of shooting was done with Federal and PMC training 

ammunition. At least one magazine load of several commonly available 

carry loads were also fired. Most consumers will buy a quantity of 

ammunition to practice with, but only a single 20rd box or two of a 

carry load. Often content to shoot one magazine of that carry 

ammunition, the remaining rounds are loaded in to the gun and the gun 

is relied upon thereafter. The number of rounds fired prevents a real 

reliability measure, but is reflective of what will actually be found 

on the street. 

The G42 would not reliably feed several rounds of the aluminum cased 

Blazer. The first Blazer round inserted in the gun would not chamber 

from slide lock. There was one stovepipe. There were no other 

ammunition-related malfunctions, but several that were shooter 

induced. When my thumb was placed against the slide, intentionally or 

otherwise, stovepipes followed. There was also a single failure to 

unlock the gun after firing due to my thumb. This occurred only with 

the lighter impulsed rounds. 

Except for an early 12:00 ejection that struck the slide, ejection was 

brisk and consistent with a solid grip. When deliberately reducing 

grip pressure or shooting WHO, it was more erratic but still to the 

right 1-3 feet. 

I found the G42 ideally suited to roles in which deepest concealment 

is critical and/or as a secondary/back-up gun.  Its quirks in 

reloading and functioning make it a compromise solution for a 

primary gun.  Those carrying it as such must understood and practice 

for its limitations.  The G42 also appears to be another viable 

50-state CCW solution for those who travel. 

I would like to see an extended length magazine made available for the 

G42.  Not for the additional capacity, but for the added area to locate 

and index a reload, as well as reduce the amount of repositioning 

needed during a reload.  I would recommend that such an extended 

magazine not include a spacer sleeve of any kind. 

Total rounds this session: 262

Cumulative total: 262

The Glock 42 (images and article)

  I'd still rather have a 9mm over a .380, Glock.  Glock 43 maybe?  S&W really nailed with the the 9mm Shield.

Full article

A discussion on the film Heat for 2014

Everybody's seen Heat, right?  RIGHT?!!!

So, how would you personalize the weapons to the characters for 2014?  Such as Tim Sizemore's character Michael Cheritto in HEAT who packed a FAL in the first scene.  I'm thinking that his 2014 choice would be a SCAR-17.......

Vincent Hanna's FNC could be traded for a KAC PDW.

Anyway, looking forward to the discussion.  Here or on forums.

Coupla of Surefire light deals

First off, the Surefire x300 500 lumens weapons light.  Roughly half off.  The gold standard in WMLs (Weapons Mounted Lights).   Heck, I'm happy with my 200 lumen X300 :)

Secondly, the 500 lumens M600 in tan.  A more study light than the X300 if you shoot more than a couple of carbine classes a year.

Remember the rumor on Colt buying LWRC?

  Rumor has it that Colt is doing it for the manufacturing space......

  That might explain why Colt has abandoned plans for a factory in Florida.

Sometimes just looking cool seems to be enough

All you need to do to look cool is slather black "tactical" clothing all over one's self (including knee pads) and.....completely disregard the four Rules of Firearms Safety. Seriously folks, check out 1:34 in the video (picture below).

This the most incompetent, dangerous group of instructors I have ever seen on the innernets. American Defense Enterprises, you are bad for all gun owners that take training seriously. Speaking as someone who has been shot by a negligent discharge, your company is an accident waiting to happen.

The woman is in the line of fire of the men. The man in the right hand corner has just fired at a target to the left and forward of her.

Then check out 1:43. Reholster, then pull two knives..... Yeah, he went there.

When you see something like this on a gun manufacturer's website

OUR PRODUCTS ARE BEING TESTED BY MILITARY SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND CANNOT BE DISCUSSED DUE TO LEGAL MATTERS.  

  Linky.

  RUN.  AVOID.  

Vickers Tactical deal for Gen 3 Glocks

Disclaimer:  I get NOTHING out of posting this link.  Neither Nettac nor Larry Vickers knows that I'm doing this.


  
   Glocks are kind of like AR15s.  Very easily customized to your tastes/fit.  From custom slide cover plates to the Glock based Lone Wolf Timberwolf, you can set your Glock up any way you want.

  Myself, my Glocks get a 25 cent trigger job, my very favorite Warren Tactical Sights, a Vickers slide stop, a Vickers magazine catch, and  a Glockmeister frame plug (contour of it helps in guiding the magazine in during reloads).  I also grind the finger grooves off and contour the front corner/edge off of the triggerguard.  It's my feeling that doing so reduces the likelihood that the square edge of the stock triggerguard could catch on clothing as I reholster.  Always reholster slowly!

  Here is how my current carry and training Gen4 G19 looks.

  So, the whole point of this rambling post is to to draw your attention to this deal on a combo package of the Vickers Tactical Slide Stop and Magazine Catch from Nettac.com.  These pieces are "Goldilocks" sized.  Not too big, not to small.  Contrasting the Glock OEM pieces, you have two choices:  the factory and "extended" parts.  In other words; too small or too big.  Also, Larry took the time to change the shape and serrations on the slide stop to be more like that of the S&W M&P's slide stop.

  I have and use these parts on all of my Glocks.  I have literally thousands of rounds through my Glocks using these well thought out and moderately priced parts.  They make it easier for me to operate the pistol and do not snag when carried nor at training classes.  Can't recommend them enough.  Grab'em for your Glock.  You will notice the difference.  For now, the magazine catch is only for the third generation Glocks.  The slide stop will fit any Glock.  It may require slight fitting.  Mine did not.

A thousand HK fanboys say "we told you so!"

  Remember this blog post?  Definitely looks like it was based on flawed if not fabricated information from the New Yorker article on the SEAL Team that carried out the Bin Laden raid.

  Certain details like the reporter mentioning what one of the team members looked like gives the impression that the reporter; a Mr. Nicholas Schmidle, had directly interviewed the SEALs.  He inventoried  the contents of one guy's pockets not to mention going into detail on the weapon supposedly used to kill Bin Laden and the other weapons carried that day.

  Well......NPR just posted this little blurb after speaking with Schmidle on the air last week (link here):

We incorrectly said that reporter Nicholas Schmidle had spoken with the Navy SEALs who participated in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. Schmidle used information from others who had debriefed the SEALs; he did not speak with them himself.

  Schmidle got called out pretty publicly here  during a live online Q and A session.  Note how quickly he ended the session when called out.  Also, this is telling:

I talked to a number of people who were intimately involved in the raid, though none of the 23 SEALs who were on the ground in Abbottabad that evening

  For those of you interested in reading more about the veracity of Schmidle, I recommend this article.  Good reading but disappointing that someone like this is writing for the New Yorker.

 Back to the question of "what weapon was used to kill Bin Laden," I can point you to Larry Vickers' Facebook page, an entry on May 15th.

Larry Vickers

Well I am sure many of you have heard UBL was done in with an HK416 - I must admit I get a sense of satisfaction knowing a weapon I helped create brought him to justice, in the exact manner it was intended for. Definitely a story for the grandkids!!

  Side note:  Larry's FB page is awesome.  Chock full of good advice, firearms trivia contests, and free hat give aways!  Strongly recommend if you do the whole FB thing.  Larry's Facebook page

  Many thanks to SWAT's Ed Lawrence who pointed out the problem with the truthfulness of Schmidle over at one of my favorite forums; Firearms Training and Tactics

The development of the Knight's Armament SR-25 EM Battle Rifle

by Kevin Boland; a personal friend of mine and the Knight's Armament Company Military/Government Product Liaison.  Kevin has the unique experience of having been there and done that in both of our current theaters for the Canadian Army and as a private military contractor.

  Shortly after 9/11 elements operating in Afghanistan noted that the M4A1  even with our (KAC) MRE FF RAS, and S&B Short Dot was not up to the task of going from the CQB fight to the edge of the villages or out in the mountains, and while the 18" Mk12 Mod0 and Mod1 are capable in the accuracy department, that they where neither very handy for CQB, nor would 5.56mm, even with then newly adopted 77gr AA53 round (Mk262) capable of barrier penetration at range.  

  Larry Motherf---in' Vickers did a segment on Tactical Arms to air this year where he talks about why the M4 was picked over the MP-5 for CQB, as to somewhat paraphrase him “you sometimes need to step out of the house and make a 100m or 200m shot,” he then relates to the 7.62mm SR-25 EM Carbine, and the 7.62 Battle Rifles, “well in Afghanistan, sometime you need to step out or go up on a building an make a 400-600m shot, and 5.56mm is not ideal for that.”

  We had built pre-ban SR-25K 16" guns, and some other 7.62 carbines, however they where not really designed for the “M4 type” roles that where being envisioned.

 We came up with the SR-25 14.5" Battle Rifle:

 With the idea is that it was very similar in appearance to the M4's and not going to draw undue attention, as well unlike the majority of systems, it used the same manual of Arms as the M4/M16, so soldier who have years on the M16FOW, don't have issues relearning drills, especially valuable under stress.

 7.62mm is more optimized in longer than 14.5” barrels and really wants at least a 16" barrel, and a lot of concerns about the reliability of the 14.5" gun were being given, so shortly after the 16" SR-25 Battle Rifle was developed, which was really just a longer barrel.

 We had never envisioned a 7.62mm gun being run like an M4, and especially with a suppressor neither the 14.5 nor the 16" gun where at the reliability level that was desired.

  Especially suppressed, I ran the 16" SR-25BR at training classes, and product demonstrations. 

  Accuracy even with the chromed barrel was always good, sub-MOA and a fair amount under the 1/2MOA mark.

  It is a good gun, but in high suppressed round counts it got dirty and finicky.

  Near the first quarter of '09 we started work on a PIP (Product Improvement Program) of the 16" gun, as well as the 20” M110 (current USMC and US Army issue sniper rifle). 

 High-speed video, lots of rounds, more high-speed video, changes to the gas system, and more rounds and video, a lot more stuff and changes to the bolt carrier, the recoil system resulted in the SR-25 EM Carbine.

At the same time, the optical industry was busy working on a 1.1-8x scope to give the user the ability to take advantage of the added capabilities of the 7.62 round.

   What we ended up with was in our opinion the finest 16" 7.62mm gas gun on the planet.

  We shot several EM’s for over 1,000 rds fully suppressed with no additional lube, with no stoppages

  We have done extensive lifecycle work on the guns, endurance testing etc.

  We wanted to build the best gun we could, so if someone on a mountain top in Afghanistan or wherever else needed to have a gun that would go and go and go, it would.

  If he has to dump it in snow to cool it down, it would go and go and go.

  With well over 50,000 rounds thru it, including a day where Mr. Knight and I stood in a puddle of muddy water splashing the gun to cool, we feel we are there.

  Unlike our previous carbines, which we showed at SHOT (I have a pic somewhere of me holding the 14.5" gun at SHOT'04 when I was still in the Canadian Army) and never really publicly released for sale, we wanted a short 7.62 like this this gun to be our Flagship.

   So it's here, and available.

CIA Contractor Raymond Davis - gear and tactics

  Raymond Davis is the former Army SF (Special Forces) dude that recently touched off an international incident in Pakistan.  Raymond was working there as a contractor for the CIA.  It appears that he was tasked with helping the CIA agents do their job and more importantly; to protect them.

  Raymond was in Lahore Pakistan, driving a Honda Civic.  He was armed with a Glock 17 9mm (3rd Gen) and 75 rds of ammo.  Two magazines according to the post at theModernSurvivalist.com but I see what could be Glock magazines alongside what are clearly AR15/M16 aluminum magazines and what looks to be a third Glock magazine in the picture with the Glock and magazines encircling a pile of ammo.   I'm not a flashlight guy so I can't ID his lights; maybe someone else can.  I can see what looks to be a filter or diffuser on the light pictured.  

  Raymond was driving the Honda Civic and stopped because of traffic.  A motorcycle with a passenger had pulled in front of his car and stopped.  A motorcycle carrying two young men following Raymond that he had noticed doing so earlier.  The passenger turned towards Raymond in his Civic and cocked his weapon (most likely a revolver).  

  Click.

  In an instant Raymond's mind switched from CIA contractor attempting to be the "gray man" (blending in, inconspicuous) to fighting for his life.  He knew he was alone in a foreign city, marked and easily found because of his race.  He knew that being outnumbered and being the lone white American male in a crowded Lahore neighborhood made for stacked odds against his survival unless countered with an immediate and aggressive counterattack.  He had almost certainly seen the grisly home videos of what happens to wayward Americans when kidnapped by militants in Islamic countries.  Not that these two Pakistani men's motives were ever clearly identified.  

  Raymond shot a five round group with his Glock 17 through the windshield at his attackers.  A tight group, almost certainly fired one-handed.  He hit the passenger in the stomach, behind the right ear, the left arm, and the left thigh.  Only one shot did not hit the passenger.  

  The man driving the motorcycle fled as his accomplice dropped his pistol and collapsed.  He ran towards the intersection as Raymond exited the Civic and shot him at least three times.  Twice in the back, once in the chest, and one grazing his thigh.  Apparently not fleeing.

  Both assailants having been killed, Raymond walked back to the Civic, got his camera, and calmly, deliberately took photographs of their bodies.  He contacted his team for assistance and extract but a mob formed against him.  He attempted to escape in the Civic and did get away from the crowd only to get caught by another crowd and a traffic warden.  Luckily, the local police took him into custody before the mob could kill him there on the street.

  Meanwhile, the international incident boiled over.  The team sent to extract Raymond ran over and killed a motorcyclist whilst going the wrong way against traffic in an attempt to get to Raymond.  The Land Cruiser did make it to the scene of the shooting but Raymond had already fled the mob.  A Pakistani man approached the Land Cruiser and flung the door open, only to be persuaded to leave by the muzzle of an assault rifle pressed to his head.  The Land Cruiser then fled to sanctuary of the American consulate.

  Raymond endured months in Pakistani prison.  Never said a word.  He was released after the US government paid diyah; the traditional Islamic law allowing for monetary restitution when bloodshed is involved.  He was also fined $235 for carrying an unlicensed firearm.

  Now back in the States, Raymond worries about getting work to make a living.

  For further reading, look no further than this excellent Men's Journal article by Matthew Teague.  

  I hope that Raymond is back in our country's service.  I hope that our country recognizes the debt owed to him.  

  Mindset and training kept Raymond from being another grainy execution video or simply a missing person.  

  

Update on the weapon used to shoot Bin Laden

  It's sort of common knowledge in certain circles that DEVGRU does indeed issue HK416s and have been doing so for years.  So, you need to read the New Yorker article and make your own call on whether or not the operator interviewed was referring to all M4 style carbines as M4s or he was actually being specific.

  Myself, I've got an email out to a former DEVGRU guy that should know the answer to this question but I'm of the opinion that if the reporter went into enough detail as to mention the HK MP7s and the suppressor on the "M4," that this could have been an exact description.

  Pic of me firing Larry Motherfuckin' Vickers' personal MP7 on the banner of this blog.

A thousand HK fanboys fell silent...........

  The hotly debated question has finally been settled.....

  What gun was used to kill Bin Laden?


  Was it a 7.62x51mm Colt CM901 rifle?

  NO, it was an HK416!

  Well, according to the first in depth interview with the DEVGRU SEALs that executed the mission, it was a suppressed plain ol' M4.  You know, one of those gas impingement rifles that "shits where it eats" and malfunctions all of the time according to some folk.

  A second SEAL stepped into the room and trained the infrared laser of his M4 on bin Laden’s chest. The Al Qaeda chief, who was wearing a tan shalwar kameez and a prayer cap on his head, froze; he was unarmed. “There was never any question of detaining or capturing him—it wasn’t a split-second decision. No one wanted detainees,” the special-operations officer told me. (The Administration maintains that had bin Laden immediately surrendered he could have been taken alive.) Nine years, seven months, and twenty days after September 11th, an American was a trigger pull from ending bin Laden’s life. The first round, a 5.56-mm. bullet, struck bin Laden in the chest. As he fell backward, the SEAL fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye. On his radio, he reported, “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.” After a pause, he added, “Geronimo E.K.I.A.”—“enemy killed in action.”